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“It leaves everybody in a very confusing position. That was…” — Pod Save America at 42:01

“It leaves everybody in a very confusing position. That was rhetorical bullshit. No, no, I know. I'm just telling the listeners. That was rhetorical bullshit. The thing that I do think complicates this conversation is I'm looking at a story in NBC News right now that's talking about the debate over whether Biden…”

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