“and say, you know, you have to step aside. Because I think…” — Pod Save America at 45:48
“and say, you know, you have to step aside. Because I think members of Congress feel like they tried, I mean, Seth said it to me too, they tried to privately get a message to him after the debate that they thought there needed to be a change and that was ineffective. So that's why all these members are going public.…”
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