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“You're back on them. So that's why there's also a…” — Cato Audio at 38:06

“You're back on them. So that's why there's also a north-south divide that is emerging as southern countries begin to question what is happening with global trade. So the signs of fragmentation we're seeing, of course, that are emerging, you look at, even though you have these high numbers, if you go behind the…”

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