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“skeptical of. But, you know, I think that the fact that he…” — Cato Audio at 13:34

“skeptical of. But, you know, I think that the fact that he responded, you know, kind of so negatively towards the study last time was, I think, showed that they do care. They pay attention. They don't like to see themselves being ranked low. And sometimes, you know, especially within regions, states want to know…”

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