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“confident that talking about the fascism piece was a…” — Pod Save America at 1:04:46

“confident that talking about the fascism piece was a mistake, but much less confident that changing that message would have made unlike any difference? You know, the related debate is like whether it was a mistake to, you know, campaign with Liz Cheney versus, I don't know, doing some other sort of economic focused…”

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