“to your point, more traditional, whatever you want to call…” — Pod Save America at 1:08:24
“to your point, more traditional, whatever you want to call it, went to West Point, served in the army, did a small business and now doing government stuff. And I think that probably they see as lame too. But I can at least come in and say, look, I love this country and I put my life on the line for this country. And…”
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