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“holding the line. And I think we're going to have to get…” — Pod Save America at 1:16:58

“holding the line. And I think we're going to have to get real creative and scrappy and be willing to really shake things up in terms of the tactics, in terms of communication. And like, if we're using the current powers of the institutions, we're going to get rolled. We need to be much smarter using new communication…”

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