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“5 million less fewer votes than Joe Biden. And Donald…” — Pod Save America at 1:20:36

“5 million less fewer votes than Joe Biden. And Donald Trump ends up with 4 million more votes than he got in 2020. And by the way, turnout, almost the same, slightly less in 2024. Probably is going to end up with like 2, 3 million votes less. Yes. Somebody sent me the conspiracy theory. Oh, no. Texted me and said…”

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