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“And just the idea of open source. I mean, I have a similar…” — The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source at 31:01

“And just the idea of open source. I mean, I have a similar story, not the same, obviously. I haven't been to 17,000 different ISPs with various nefarious folks involved or not involved. Yeah. Like you have and have the journey that you had. Yeah, it makes it sound like I work for a crime family. That's why I didn't.…”

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