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“To then eventually found a company that would be open…” — The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source at 40:02

“To then eventually found a company that would be open source. Yeah. So, I mean, there's a couple of things. So one was, so Miguel de Acaza and Nat Friedman. Nat Friedman would go on to be the CEO of GitHub and a bunch of other things. They started a company in the early days called Zimian. I don't know if that was…”

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