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“But it was the same people dreaming about how do we figure…” — The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source at 46:20

“But it was the same people dreaming about how do we figure out how to start a business? How do we figure out how to build a company that IPOs? How do we figure out how to do all of this? We wanted it, but we didn't know how to get it. And so we just kept taking shots. Is it HJK? Is that right? Yeah. So you created a…”

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