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“a sign of winning is competition yeah like puppet was…” — The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source at 1:38:08

“a sign of winning is competition yeah like puppet was winning therefore chef existed yeah yeah and like one way to look at it was i was taking away from the potential of puppet another way to look at it was i validated puppet you know i validated that market i like like we grew together we did that together and like…”

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