“Yeah, I mean, we don't know how many votes he would have…” — Pod Save America at 3:19
“Yeah, I mean, we don't know how many votes he would have gotten. Like, we know that those four at least felt, or at least their staff felt comfortable enough talking to Gates and J.D. Vance, who was walking him around the hill over the last couple days. I think this is where, you know, he started realizing that maybe…”
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