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“Definitely does turn people off. And it's not just that…” — Pod Save America at 40:26

“Definitely does turn people off. And it's not just that they're going to help rich people at the expense of everyone else. So it is like I never want to lose completely the some of their stuff is just really extreme part of it because it does it does worry swing voters, you know, as much if not more as his policies…”

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