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“truth is not black and white. It is three-dimensional.…” — Pod Save America at 1:10:33

“truth is not black and white. It is three-dimensional. Left versus right is not something that exists in nature. I think if politics has a shape, it's probably more like a Nautilus or it is something different. And so when you are introducing more nuance, there's power to break the polarization. But you've got to get…”

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