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“Yeah. While we're talking about, I guess, kind of, I don't…” — Software Engineering Daily at 57:38

“Yeah. While we're talking about, I guess, kind of, I don't say low level, but you know, different kinds of systems. We did mention Zipper earlier. So Zipper is a game for the Playdate, which is a show favorite here. We've had them as well.”

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