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“people are comfortable moving the line if they can crisply…” — The Vergecast at 36:27

“people are comfortable moving the line if they can crisply understand what it does for them and whether or not it actually adds value to their life. And then do they trust the person building them and giving them that thing, right? So that's why I think there's two big parts we have to get right, which is one, you've…”

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