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“I do think it's real. And I hear it more, I guess…” — The Vergecast at 57:42

“I do think it's real. And I hear it more, I guess, anecdotally from friends who are like, oh, I don't know. I've been thinking about just going with a minimalist phone and getting a compact camera and calling it a day. And I always just hesitate a little bit. I'm like, well, I'm going to be the bummer here. But like…”

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