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“it's defense contractors and it's, it's folks in political…” — Pod Save America at 20:57

“it's defense contractors and it's, it's folks in political power. Like it really is. And that, that began to, so I became, it became very critical of American foreign policy, which as I, then that kind of just set me on a road of being, well, I'm critical of foreign policy. Why is there foreign policy like this? So I…”

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