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“I don't think that the criticism is always correct, but…” — Pod Save America at 39:39

“I don't think that the criticism is always correct, but the criticism is absolutely there and it's driven like the kind of narrative. And that's why I think that the only way to regain the trust of the American people as Democrats is to be radically different than what we've had. To really become, like, there should…”

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