“frankly, the establishment of even my party wants nothing…” — Pod Save America at 3:48
“frankly, the establishment of even my party wants nothing to do with me. It kind of keeps all of that at arm's length, like automatically. So I'm not that mad, but you like just interacting with it. It's like, man, this is, there's a whole industry around this stuff. Is it the time suck? That's really, it's the time.…”
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