“I don't want to say taken the bait, but engaged too much…” — Pod Save America at 46:41
“I don't want to say taken the bait, but engaged too much in some of these cultural wars. And I think they have taken the bait. And I'll be entirely honest. I think some of them, some of them don't even take the bait. Some of them rise to it on purpose because they don't want to have the other conversation. I mean…”
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