“There's just kind of interacting with the whole media…” — Pod Save America at 4:49
“There's just kind of interacting with the whole media landscape and political world as a pretty normal guy up until August. And so like, that's a whole wild experience. Like I open my phone and see my name. And I'm like, I don't know. No, no, no. I don't want to see that. It's just this very. And it's not always…”
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