“Like I'm not, I'm not a pacifist, but at this point I've…” — Pod Save America at 1:05:18
“Like I'm not, I'm not a pacifist, but at this point I've become essentially anti-war when it, when it comes to like the nation writ large and how we use our power internationally. Because every time we do this, when you, when you go back and look at it in hindsight, it's pretty much always a bad idea. But more…”
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