“I mean, I think it's important to separate out details in…” — Pod Save America at 34:28
“I mean, I think it's important to separate out details in the indictment from what he was charged with because initially when I read all the reporting on it, I was like, oh my God, this is horrible. This guy's like a kingpin. And then you get into it and the federal grand jury only charged him with conspiracy to…”
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