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“And it is a scary thing to think about, Jorge, but also…” — Geopolitics & Empire at 9:10

“And it is a scary thing to think about, Jorge, but also it's being it's like having the boats burn behind us. Like we're in a war and they burn the boats behind us. There's a river behind us. There's nowhere to run. So we must stand here and we must create, not fight. We must create better systems. And we've got to…”

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