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“And sure enough, we were coming back, and it's dark. We…” — Hammer and Nails Podcast at 44:33

“And sure enough, we were coming back, and it's dark. We could barely see the trails. Thank God it was a full moon that night. It was black. We were layered up. We brought so much clothes. Yeah, but the horses were good. But meanwhile, as we're leaving the place to walk all the way up back to the car, we're walking in…”

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