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“Period. Like he literally just said it and then Mike…” — The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source at 53:02

“Period. Like he literally just said it and then Mike dropped and backed off. Like he was still around. And he was listening and watching, but he was not driving anything, which meant we actually had to decide how we were going to decide how to run ourselves, right, which is tricky, right? So”

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