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“It was not his thing. He's just like, nope, not my thing.…” — The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source at 1:06:22

“It was not his thing. He's just like, nope, not my thing. Let the community handle it. So the community handled it. And what ended up developing was kind of, I mean, I can't, but basically just groups of people who were working on packaging outside of the core dev team. Now there were people like me”

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