“Biden said they do, which is we're going to listen to the…” — Pod Save America at 36:08
“Biden said they do, which is we're going to listen to the scientists who don't have to run for anything. So there you have the pressure. I mean, I admire them for trying to do what they think is best for the public health. And they should do that. But there are political costs to it. And you see it in the contrast…”
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