“So there's a through line between that. I mean, the idea…” — Pod Save America at 53:45
“So there's a through line between that. I mean, the idea that we can overcome these things and we can bring about change and the idea of hope. I mean, somehow hope, which seems like such a wholesome and good word, has been tarnished. It's like, hope, what kind of idiot are you? So that part seems a little sepia…”
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