“Someone whose name I won't mention. I've gotten in trouble…” — Pod Save America at 55:39
“Someone whose name I won't mention. I've gotten in trouble for doing it before, so you go ahead. No, said, you know, maybe we should throw our, you know, go for something smaller or throw the two. And the president says to Phil Shalero, our legislative director, Phil, what do you think the chances are of passing this…”
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