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“quality to these talks to his, you know, almost a naive…” — Pod Save America at 57:51

“quality to these talks to his, you know, almost a naive sounding. But on the other hand, he paid off on it. Yeah, he did for sure. No, I mean, I guess I had that reaction just because of sort of the extremism of the Republican Party today. And, you know, you can argue we've had these fights forever, but it does seem…”

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