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“I think there are two. One is a cardinal rule of politics…” — Pod Save America at 6:16

“I think there are two. One is a cardinal rule of politics, which is you want to do everything you possibly can to focus the political discussion on issues that unite your base and divide theirs. And that is because, I mean, one, it is in your interest to have your opponents divided, but also that's how media works…”

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