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“He's got a mind of his own, this one, I'll tell you. They…” — Pet Chat at 10:22

“He's got a mind of his own, this one, I'll tell you. They often do those little daxies. Yeah. Is it quite safe to use a joker chain for a birdie and training with them? It's not something we'd recommend these days, Kevin. There's lots more successful ways of doing it that you'll get a much better response much more…”

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