“It was pre-Trump in two ways. One, no one was screaming at…” — Pod Save America at 3:37
“It was pre-Trump in two ways. One, no one was screaming at the other person or stalking around or doing incredibly weird shit, which happens in Trump debates. But also, no one really tried to have a whole bunch of lines. No one was trying to give each other COVID, spitting, sweating. And there weren't a lot of lines…”
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