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“There is this huge gap between how the pundits assessed…” — Pod Save America at 4:19

“There is this huge gap between how the pundits assessed Vance's performance and how the voters did. And I think it speaks to the incorrect ways in which pundits judge debates. They are, I mean, media folks are all probably members of the same debate club that J.D. Vance was. They judge it on that, on points and style…”

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