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“There you go. There is a way. If you're actually trying…” — The Ben Maller Show at 38:19

“There you go. There is a way. If you're actually trying, that's the problem. A lot of these teams, they don't spend money. They don't try. Tampa Bay, to their credit, Milwaukee, they found a formula. They tried. And they're not just like, like the athletics, just draft guys, develop them. And they're like, Mason…”

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