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“So I went directly to the people shaping that future. Elon…” — The Ben Maller Show at 43:02

“So I went directly to the people shaping that future. Elon Musk, Dario Khamenei, Alex Carr, Fefe Li, Palmer Luckey. Because I wanted to understand what the most consequential builders believe, what they fear, and where they think this is all headed. Silicon Valley is always saying the cliche thing about the way to…”

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