“Is it Ben? Is it Ben? Is it Caleb? And I always side on…” — Stugotz and Company LIVE! at 49:07
“Is it Ben? Is it Ben? Is it Caleb? And I always side on the side of the quarterback of the player because Caleb Williams was great before Ben Johnson got there. And Caleb Williams would have been great eventually with someone as his head coach. It's kind of like Michael Jordan. Eventually, everyone was”
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