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“they had to persevere through when everyone counted them…” — The Ben Maller Show at 31:37

“they had to persevere through when everyone counted them out. People like the co-founder of Buddy's Coffee, Rachel, who quickly went from being a New York Times success story to facing eviction. Being deemed a successful business by a New York Times as a Puerto Rican girl from New York who didn't finish college. I…”

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