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“8 to 12, I think it was. So, you know, we're even past…” — The Dan Patrick Show at 34:11

“8 to 12, I think it was. So, you know, we're even past that point. It's not something I think about on a daily basis. There's no reminder or something that you know that feeling, you know, or that you get that feeling and then you have to, like coping mechanism? Yeah, behavior. I think behavior is a real telling sign…”

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