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“So I went directly to the people shaping that future. Elon…” — The Ben Maller Show at 20:21

“So I went directly to the people shaping that future. Elon Musk, Dario Homidek, Alex Scott, Fafe Lee, Palmer Lucky, because I wanted to understand what the most consequential builders believe, what they feel, and where they think this is all headed.”

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