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“And while ThoughtWorks would say, these are really good…” — The Pragmatic Engineer at 8:49

“And while ThoughtWorks would say, these are really good ideas. They're really hard to implement, but we'll give it a try. And they usually pulled it off. And so I thought, hey, we have a client like that. I might as well join him for a little while and see what we can do. That was 25 years ago.”

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