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“It does seem like there are real consequences and that…” — The Vergecast at 27:21

“It does seem like there are real consequences and that things are going to have to change as a result of those real consequences. Like the nihilist in me says it'll be a lot of yelling that ultimately doesn't really go anywhere. But like you said, there are starting to be like in the UK, this stuff has already…”

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