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“In fact, there's a very high probability that this podcast…” — Decoder with Nilay Patel at 2:11

“In fact, there's a very high probability that this podcast itself came to you over a Sienna-powered network. This company is everywhere. And Gary himself is a fascinating character in this story. He joined Sienna in 1997, the year the company had an astonishingly successful IPO in the middle of the dot-com boom. And…”

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