“of all struggles. And, you know, you trace the genesis of…” — Decoder with Nilay Patel at 45:23
“of all struggles. And, you know, you trace the genesis of all of those companies now, and basically they're all in Nokia, you know, it's Alcatel and Lucent and all the rest of them are all, the music stopped and that's where they ended up. You know, and the point I make about that is the whole system, you know, the…”
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