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“So it's kind of the same thing for a model. And then when…” — The Vergecast at 32:41

“So it's kind of the same thing for a model. And then when you think about computer use, there's just like a lot of things that are kind of hard to interact with just with tools. So if you think about like what can you actually do with a tool on a computer, it's something like MCP or it's an API or it's a command line…”

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