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“In that world, which is very much the world we live in…” — The Vergecast at 17:19

“In that world, which is very much the world we live in, right, where now and then you go on TikTok and everybody is hawking stuff on the TikTok shop. And there's just no, there's no shame in any of it. And we've completely lost the sort of ironic detachment between I'm being authentic and I'm selling you something.…”

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