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“not that good. You know, like a video editor who's been…” — The Vergecast at 20:25

“not that good. You know, like a video editor who's been hired by a podcast, you know, on a contract to make their videos, they don't get paid based on the performance. At least most of them don't. And I think it does create sort of like a race to the bottom. And that might be why brands don't want to associate with…”

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